1 Kugel Rotary estimating and quote process
Simplified summary of the quote process:
- We can provide an upper and lower estimate within one day.
- We may need to complete a strip-down to inspect for internal damage and be certain of the bearings and component types.
- If we do this, we will ask you for permission to proceed
- We reserve the right to charge a nominal fee of £300 for the inspection report.
- Once we have had chance to inspect the spindle, we will be able to provide a firm quotation.
- You are not obliged to order, the cost of the inspection report will be deductible from your next order.
- We aim to provide a strip-down inspection and quote within five working days.
2 Pre-estimate
2.1 What we need from you at this stage:
- The machine and spindle make, model and serial number.
- The size and (approximate) weight.
- The maximum and typical running speed RPM.
- The tool interface type.
- Although not essential any additional information you have will help us.
- Lifetime, installation date, running hours, number of tool-change cycles.
- Bearing part numbers and configuration.
- Approximate cost of new (to determine if beyond economical repair).
2.2 The service we provide:
- We are happy to provide phone support to help you diagnose if you have a spindle fault and any potential solutions, this is included in the service.
- If your spindle is seized, has run-out or other damage it is likely to need repair.
- It is very difficult to determine the repair cost without an inspection, we can give you a guide price over the phone. It is worth noting that spindles with a value of <£1,000 are rarely economical to repair an a typical repair cost is between 25% and 70% of the cost of a new spindle.
- We can visit you (in the UK), ask us to quote for a breakdown callout.
3 Initial estimate
3.1 What we need from you at this stage:
- To ship the spindle to our factory.
3.2 The service we provide:
- As standard we assess and provide a spindle condition report:
- External inspection, noting condition and damage.
- Basic spin test.
- Tool interface runout.
- Electrical checks of winding resistance, earth continuity and insulation.
- As a options we can:
- Provide a bearing vibration analysis, drawbar force test or additional testing before disassembly (as for a quote)
- We will provide:
- A bracketed estimate, based on previous and typical failure modes. This will be as accurate as possible, but as we haven’t yet disassembled the spindle it is non-binding.
- An assessment report.
- Confirmation that we can repair, and a recommendation to proceed (or not).
- We aim to do this within a day of receipt.
3.3 What we need to proceed:
- If you are happy, we need Permission to Proceed (P2P).
- We will provide you a quote for £300 for the disassembly report, this will include a £300 voucher to spend on this, or subsequent orders.
- The spindle will be disassembled, measured and we will obtain quotations from our component suppliers.
- There is no obligation to proceed, but:
- After disassembly it is advisable to scrap components such as seals and bearings.
- The spindle will be returned in its disassembled state.
- We will require a purchase order for £300
- We will provide a detailed quotation of price and lead time(s).
- We aim to do this within 5 working days of receipt.
3.4 Alternative option
- We recommend the disassembly report, as it is fully transparent and minimises risk of unexpected cost for both you and us.
- However as an alternative option we can proceed on an ‘estimate plus’ basis. We will provide a best-case quotation (this will include the standard components replaced on almost every re-manufacture: typically, bearings, seals, screws and fasteners, and the inspection/assembly/test labour).
- We will then proceed with the refurbishment, at your risk, so there may be additional items that require replacement, and we will itemise them and bill you.
4 Disassembly report
4.1 What we need from you at this stage:
- Permission to Proceed (P2P) and either Purchase order or written agreement to pay £300.
4.2 The service we provide:
- Once we have P2PPermission to Proceed, we provide a spindle disassembly report.
- This will detail bearing and component types
- Components beyond economical repair, and measurements or test information
- ‘Advisories’ wear or slight damage that could optionally be addressed during the service will be noted as additional line items
- We will provide a detailed quotation with price (valid for 30 days) and lead time (an upper estimate, you will receive a confirmed ship date when we receive the order. At this point we will order the components and schedule a production slot).
- A warranty period will be specified on the quotation
4.3 What we need to proceed:
- A purchase order.
- As standard we scrap worn/damaged components. If you would like them returned to you feel free to ask.
5 Assembly and test report
- As standard we clean and inspect every component.
- We measure and test components during assembly.
- We measure and set the assembly to original tolerances.
- We run-in the bearings, at increasing speed increments whilst monitoring temperature and/or vibration.
- We perform a suite of final tests and provide a detailed test report.
- If additional issues or fault components are identified, we will replace that at our cost honouring the original quote.
- We intend to deliver on-time, every-time. If issues arise during assembly or testing, we will keep you informed and provide an update on your ship date.
- We prove a warranty.
- We will securely package.
- If the quote is inclusive of shipping, we will arrange this on your chosen delivery date.
6 P2P form – Permission to proceed
Name:
Date:
I provide permission to proceed and prepare a disassembly report.
I understand that:
- This will cost £300, payable by purchase order, either separately or on the full repair invoice.
- It is inclusive of a £300 voucher to spend on this, or subsequent orders.
- There is no obligation to proceed, but:
- The spindle will be returned in its disassembled state.
- Some components (typically, but not limited to, bearings and seals) will be in an unusable condition.
- We ensure the goods are kept in good condition:
- Segregate from all other goods so they remain identifiable
- Not remove, deface or obscure any identifying marks
- Maintain the goods in satisfactory condition and keep them insured for their full price
- Refer to our full terms and conditions
| Machine tool make / model | |
| Spindle tool make / model | |
| Spindle Serial number (if known) | |
| Description of fault (use the fault diagnostic form) | |
| Spindle speed | |
| Motor controller type | |
| Application (milling, grinding, etching…) | |
| Materials, and grade if known (aluminium, steel, plastic, composite…) | |
| Cooling fluid | |
| Hydraulic operating pressures | |
| Digital feedback (limit switches, etc…) | |
| Analogue feedback (encoder, thermocouple, tool position, vibration…) |
7 Failure mode
| General fault description (what is the effect > the symptoms > what do you think the cause might be? |
| When did it start / how long has it been an issue? |
| Is it permanent or intermittent? Is there anything that switches it on-off? |
| Anything else that might help us with repair and diagnosis? |
7.1 Fault finding chart
Not all spindles will have all of the features in this checklist – just mark N/A for not applicable or X for unable to check.
We are happy to provide phone support or mor details on the check procedure (although every spindle and machine is different!).
| Symptoms | Cause | Check | Results and Comments |
| Noise/vibration | Total Bearing failure | Does the spindle spin? If so is there resistance or noise when slowly rotated. | |
| Bearings failing | What is the motor load, is this higher than normal (idling, accelerating and cutting) | ||
| Describe the noise (high pitched, rumbling, only when cutting). | |||
| Allow the spindle to cool, run and monitor bearing temperatures | |||
| Tool holding | Wear in the expanding mandrill/clamping jaws, clean, and if possible replace. | ||
| Check the tool clamp position and/or clamp force. If possible, inspect the drawbar. | |||
| Burning smell | Friction between components | Stop. Is there resistance or noise when slowly rotated. | |
| Electrical short | Electrically Isolate. Measure resistance between earth and each motor phase. | ||
| Noise when tool changing | Tool changer to spindle alignment. | Check the tool taper for uneven wear (egg-shaped runout). Check alignment of the tool loading arm. | |
| Tool breakages | Runout | Change the tool holder/collet Perform the checks below. | |
| Surface finish | Runout | Are the tool interface & air purge holes clean and free of burrs or damage (clean or gently stone/polish) | |
| Measure the radial runout (using a dial test indicator on the inner bore of the tool taper, typically <5 µm is good, >10 µm requires investigation. | |||
| Measure the axial runout (face of the tool taper). | |||
| Measure the projected runout (typically requires a gauge bar, but a new/known good tool or bar extension will be sufficient as a guide). | |||
| Damage to the spindle nose/housing | Machine ‘crash’ spindle-contact at speed | Check for physical damage/dents/impact marks. There may be unidentified bearing damage following a significant ‘crash’ | |
| Electrical and feedback faults | Damaged cabling/wiring | Inspect the cabling for damage, check | |
| Damaged plugs/pin | Check plugs for contaminate (fluid, swarth). | ||
| EMC interference | Check bonding and cabling of the machine/motor/drives etc… | ||
| Fluid leaks | Cutting fluid – Hydraulic coupling | Spindles with through tool air or coolant will have a rotary coupling (typically at the rear of the spindle) inspect. | |
| Hydraulic oil – tool change drawbar | Note any oil building up or seeping. | ||
| Cooling fluid – Cooling system | Many spindles have a water cooled jacket for the motor and bearings. Check for seeping. Low pressure air leak test. | ||
| Accelerated wear | Abrasive material in cutting fluid | Note the cutting material(s). Perform a check of the cutting fluid and filtration. | |
| Blocked air purge | Most spindles have at least 2 air-purge systems: -Labyrinth seals between the housing and rotating shaft -Cleaning air purge holes in the tool taper/face. Clean, check each is clear. | ||
| Air leaks | O-ring failure | See above, most spindles only require an air supply for clean/purge and by design this is exhausted to atmosphere. Flow through test (sufficient flow rate for purge – if not clean purge holes) Or low pressure air leak test. |